{"id":2989,"date":"2017-11-16T17:31:47","date_gmt":"2017-11-16T22:31:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/blog\/?p=2989"},"modified":"2017-11-16T17:31:47","modified_gmt":"2017-11-16T22:31:47","slug":"stacked-props-a-how-to","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/stacked-props-a-how-to\/","title":{"rendered":"Stacked Props &#8211; A How-To?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s been a busy autumn and now I&#8217;m under the weather, so things have slowed down and that&#8217;s not good, as I&#8217;ve got lots to do.<\/p>\n<p>So, while I&#8217;ve been sitting here doing nothing, I&#8217;ve been thinking about a couple of projects that I have coming up.\u00a0 I plan on building a couple of Peanuts this winter and I want to go with a pretty big prop &#8211; 6&#8243; diameter with 9&#8243; pitch (1.5:1 PD Ratio).\u00a0 This is higher than our standard PD Ratio on Superior Props (1.3:1), but I wanted to try something different.\u00a0 By the way, this is pretty aggressive for a Peanut.\u00a0 Most Peanuts run 5&#8243; props, and if they do go to 6&#8243;, it is a plastic at about 0.9:1 PD ratio.\u00a0 We&#8217;ll see how it goes later, but now &#8211; my prop building process.<\/p>\n<p>I started with thinking of molded prop blades, like the &#8220;can&#8221; style, but built on a prop pitch block.\u00a0 If you are on Facebook and follow some Indoor Free Flight groups, you probably have seen some very beautiful pitch blocks that guys have made for their indoor props &#8211; think F1D props.\u00a0 I thought that would be a good way to do.\u00a0 So I made one.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/6x9-Prop-Block.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-2990\" src=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/6x9-Prop-Block.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1000\" height=\"870\" srcset=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/6x9-Prop-Block.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/6x9-Prop-Block-300x261.jpg 300w, https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/6x9-Prop-Block-768x668.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I calculated the angles at each station from zero through 3.25&#8243; (exceeding the radius) and gave each section a 5&#8243; diameter radius to create undercamber (just like molding on a 5&#8243; can).\u00a0 And &#8230; actually, I made two, because I stacked the sections backwards the first time and made a reverse block.<\/p>\n<p>While I love the look of this and know it would work well, I just don&#8217;t think I will use it.\u00a0 I wanted to use 1\/64&#8243; ply blades and I cut some out, but they are weighing about 1.5 grams without any hubs or anything &#8211; just the two blades.\u00a0 I wanted something lighter.<\/p>\n<p>I then switched gears and went with a stacked prop.\u00a0 I call them stacked because you take a stack of sticks and pivot them around the prop shaft and the resulting angle creates the pitch.\u00a0 I calculated that 1\/4&#8243; x 1\/16&#8243; sticks would work well, if the tips were overlapped <strong>1\/8&#8243;***<\/strong>.\u00a0 This method of generating a pitch is very old &#8211; like back to the Wright Brothers and maybe earlier.<\/p>\n<p>*** &#8211; CORRECTION &#8211; originally I typed overlapped 1\/16&#8243;.\u00a0\u00a0 The correct overlap is 1\/8&#8243;.<\/p>\n<p>Here is what I did.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-01.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-2991\" src=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-01.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1000\" height=\"328\" srcset=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-01.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-01-300x98.jpg 300w, https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-01-768x252.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/a>First, I designed everything in my CAD system and them cut out the parts.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-02.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-2992\" src=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-02.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1000\" height=\"445\" srcset=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-02.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-02-300x134.jpg 300w, https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-02-768x342.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/a>These are the parts that make the fixture to accurately stack the sticks.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-03.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-2993\" src=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-03.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1000\" height=\"459\" srcset=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-03.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-03-300x138.jpg 300w, https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-03-768x353.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/a>This is the assembled fixture with a\u00a0 1\/16&#8243; aluminum tube as the axle (prop shaft bushing).\u00a0 The tube will not be cemented until the final finishing of the prop.\u00a0 Right now, it is just for alignment.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-04.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-2994\" src=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-04.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1000\" height=\"651\" srcset=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-04.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-04-300x195.jpg 300w, https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-04-768x500.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/a>Here are all of the sticks, ready to go.\u00a0 They are marked and numbered for no real reason, as each stick is the same.\u00a0 Having said that, sticks 4 and 5 are marked on the end to indicate the centerline of the blade.\u00a0 This will help me when I lay the blade pattern on and trace it.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-05.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-2995\" src=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-05.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1000\" height=\"476\" srcset=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-05.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-05-300x143.jpg 300w, https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-05-768x366.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/a>Stick #1 was laid in place, but not glued to anything (you DO want to remove the prop from the fixture, don&#8217;t you?)\u00a0 Then the next sticks are cemented onto the previous stick.\u00a0 This shows the process half way through.\u00a0 Oh, you need to use the tip jigs for proper stick placement.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-06.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-2996\" src=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-06.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1000\" height=\"380\" srcset=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-06.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-06-300x114.jpg 300w, https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-06-768x292.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/a>Here are all eight sticks stacked and glued.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-07.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-2997\" src=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-07.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1000\" height=\"657\" srcset=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-07.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-07-300x197.jpg 300w, https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-07-768x505.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/a>You can see the stair-step stacking on this end view, all set in place with the tip jig.\u00a0 You can also see the blade thickness will be just under 1\/16&#8243; at the tip &#8211; plenty to sand away.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-08.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-2998\" src=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-08.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1000\" height=\"312\" srcset=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-08.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-08-300x94.jpg 300w, https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-08-768x240.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/a>Here I have started to sand the high corners away.\u00a0 This method really saves wood; you&#8217;re not carving away most of a block to get thin blades.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-09.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-2999\" src=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-09.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1000\" height=\"403\" srcset=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-09.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-09-300x121.jpg 300w, https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-09-768x310.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/a>I traced my blade templates (I DO like the chinese prop blade shapes!)\u00a0 I then carved the excess away and started thinning the blades by sanding.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-10.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-3000\" src=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-10.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1000\" height=\"804\" srcset=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-10.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-10-300x241.jpg 300w, https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/11\/Stack-10-768x617.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/a>Here is the prop all ready to finish.\u00a0 I need the tubing for the shaft, some sort of clutch, fitting the prop to the spinner, and probably some sort of finish on the bare blades.\u00a0 I am sure that I can get the whole assembly to be around 1.5 grams.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s been a busy autumn and now I&#8217;m under the weather, so things have slowed down and that&#8217;s not good, as I&#8217;ve got lots to do. 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