{"id":2968,"date":"2017-09-22T12:25:01","date_gmt":"2017-09-22T16:25:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/blog\/?p=2968"},"modified":"2017-09-22T12:25:01","modified_gmt":"2017-09-22T16:25:01","slug":"keys-to-ff-success-part-1-of-3-cg-trim","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/keys-to-ff-success-part-1-of-3-cg-trim\/","title":{"rendered":"Keys To FF Success &#8211; Part 1 of 3 &#8211; CG &#038; Trim"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I have decided to analyze &#8211; and share &#8211; the things that I consider to have brought me more success in my recent flying than I have had in all of my previous years of flying.\u00a0 This goes beyond the basic &#8220;building straight&#8221;.\u00a0 I will cover three things that I feel have brought me success:\u00a0 CG &amp; Trim, Thrust Adjustments, and Winding to Torque.\u00a0 Each will be a separate article.\u00a0 Now, I am not in discoverer or innovator of any of these, but simply apply knowledge that others have passed along.<\/p>\n<p>As a last comment, I am no &#8220;expert&#8221; and I am not meticulous in application of any of these things.\u00a0 I might have a few more wins if I was a little more dedicated to absolute accuracy, but everything in life is a trade-off.\u00a0 I am flying pretty well these days, and I do strive to improve, but I tend to feel that third-decimal-place accuracy in some of these things is a waste of time and effort.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CG &amp; Trim<\/strong><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2969\" style=\"width: 345px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/MBtrimming.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2969\" class=\"wp-image-2969\" src=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/MBtrimming-488x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"335\" height=\"703\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2969\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Good general trimming advice by Bill Warner in his &#8220;Hey Kid&#8230;&#8221; series in Model Builder magazine<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Way back when, I, like most others, went by the &#8220;1\/3rd of span&#8221; rule of thumb for CG location and followed general trimming instructions like those shown in Model Builder or Don Ross&#8217; book.\u00a0 Also I followed various &#8220;10-step trimming methods&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>These are helpful and I had a degree of success, but in my experience, they are too generic.\u00a0 I would have trouble establishing a glide.\u00a0 At first, I thought I was having issues with the propeller and I adapted a process that I still use today.<\/p>\n<p>Some recommend removing the prop and replacing it with weight and finding the glide.\u00a0 I don&#8217;t do that &#8211; I simply load a short test motor and give it a 100-200 turns &#8211; just enough to sustain a glide.<\/p>\n<p>My logic is that I am not having the prop act as some sort of brake or rudder.\u00a0 With the motor turning the prop and providing minimal thrust, I have removed that problem from the equation and I am actually seeing how the model will behave at the tail end of powered flight.\u00a0 This practice gives me a good starting point for applying power.<\/p>\n<p>But this is not the real starting point.\u00a0 Shortly after I came back to the hobby, I went to the FAC Nats and witnessed Don DeLoach win Grand Champion.\u00a0 A little bit after that, Don wrote an article for the FAC News that explained why he could win at so many events.\u00a0 If you have ever spent time with Don while he is flying, you will know that he is strict in his application of his own processes.\u00a0 And, obviously, if the guy can dominate in Scale AND Endurance, he&#8217;s onto something.<\/p>\n<p>Don&#8217;s article (now archived <a href=\"http:\/\/www.volareproducts.com\/PFFT\/RubberScaleFlyingbyDeLoach.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>HERE<\/strong><\/a>) gives an introduction into trimming a model that goes way beyond the generic trimming methods mentioned above.\u00a0 Don&#8217;s practices rely heavily on William McCombs&#8217; Tail Volume Calculations.\u00a0 Don&#8217;s article gave me enough information to set up a process that includes a spreadsheet to calculate this relationship between the wing, the tail, and the tail moment (distance between the wing and tail).<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2970\" style=\"width: 299px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/CG.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2970\" class=\"wp-image-2970\" src=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/CG-827x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"289\" height=\"358\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2970\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">a screen shot of my spreadsheet<\/p><\/div>\n<p>I now use this on EVERY model I build (and design).\u00a0 In the design phase, it will tell me whether my tail is too small so that I can increase the size.\u00a0 <u>It tells where the CG should be on the wing<\/u> in both percentage and inches.\u00a0 This is where your model should balance on the wing.\u00a0 You need to know this to start your glide tests.<\/p>\n<p>It also allowed me to calculate a better location for the wing on the Jimmie Allen Special.\u00a0 I reported this in<strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/blog\/?page_id=1597\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">THIS ARTICLE<\/a><\/strong> &#8211; and I have had more than one person tell me that this process turned their unreliable JA Special into a good flying model.<\/p>\n<p>In\u00a0 my spreadsheet, I have separated the models into different types so that, in my mind, I can compare apples-to-apples.\u00a0 I have categories for Peanut, NoCal, Old Timer, Scale, JetCat, and Embryo.\u00a0 In this way, I can make a slightly-educated guess how a prospective model might fly compared to known good flyers from my past.<\/p>\n<p>I believe that because I have applied this technique, my models are performing better in the test gliding process and therefore are performing better when they come to flying.\u00a0 I almost never need to adjust the elevator, at least nothing more than a small tweak.\u00a0 I am experiencing less occasions of models stalling out or diving in during these glide tests.<\/p>\n<p>And, of course, the follow-on to the discovery of the CG location and the glide settings is to NOT CHANGE THESE SETTINGS when you apply power, not even the elevator.\u00a0 Because of a longer motor, you might have to add weight to re-establish the CG in the proper location, but never stray from the settings that created a good glide.<\/p>\n<p>The next article will be on Thrust Adjustments.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I have decided to analyze &#8211; and share &#8211; the things that I consider to have brought me more success in my recent flying than I have had in all of my previous years of flying.\u00a0 This goes beyond the &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/keys-to-ff-success-part-1-of-3-cg-trim\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":2970,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2968","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-builds"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2968","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2968"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2968\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/2970"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2968"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2968"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/volareproducts.com\/new2024\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2968"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}